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Authorization BOF MinutesThe original BOF agenda is archived here: BOF Agenda Slides are available at: http://zuni.cs.vt.edu/grid-authz/bof-slides-1.pdf http://zuni.cs.vt.edu/grid-authz/bof-slides-2-authz-frameworks.pdf Introduction and Agenda (Markus Lorch)There is a lot of discussion in the security area on authorization. Some believe that we should get started with more formal authorization work. So, we're proposing this working group. We'd like to develop an inventory of existing authorization mechanisms and frameworks. Also, the WG will summarize authorization scenarios from GGF scenarios already in the works or completed. An important aspect is to find if there is any overlap with other groups and clarify what will be done by this group. BOF Goals:
Proposed WG scope: Provide guidelines for grid developers. Aim for guidelines such that people following them will have an easier time and we will not be stuck with one technology now and will have to change later. Grid authorization mechanisms:
There are lots of approaches, but everyone does their own thing as nobody has guidelines to follow for interoperability. Authorization Frameworks (Leon Gommans, Univ of Amsterdam)RFC 2904:
Generic AAA framework basic principles: pull sequence, agent sequence, and push sequence. Push is typical in the grid. AAA entity issues credentials. Also consider roaming scenarios and distributed services over multiple administrative domains. Other frameworks:
RFC 2903 Generic AAA Architecture:
Conclusion: A concepts document can give a better overall picture. It should describe existing and emerging (OGSA) mechanisms. Existing AuthZ and Privilege Management Frameworks, APIs, and Standards (Markus)Available documents in other groups:
Work in progress:
Review of grid security implications document:
Review of ACE security requirements document:
Review and Discussion of Proposed Charter and MilestonesIn charter, be compatible "with current and future grid architectures". In charter goal, change classification to taxonomy? Will these documents be specific to Grid computing? They're summarizing technologies that are broader than Grid computing. The documents are a first step, before working on APIs. Leon's presentation was just to get us started down the path on existing work. The group will stay focused and not survey everything that is out there. Is the document a survey of all authorization technologies? Focus on Grid computing requirements and mechanisms. DAIS WG plans to have authorization requirements document to feed into this group's documents. Can you fit the authz mechanisms into a single framework? If not is there any hope for interoperable authz frameworks? (Examples: authz based on ability to pay vs. authz based on group membership) Framework is meant as a classification or taxonomy; not the solution, but rather the territory that we are considering. Consider this a conceptual framework rather than a solution. Should also identify mechanisms that are missing. Second document should address requirements, both those that can be met today and those that can't currently be met. Is this effort too abstract? Will the world be different in a year and a half? Can we compact the schedule? General consensus: have drafts of both documents ready for next GGF. Where is interoperability in the description of the documents? The second document could have guidelines for achieving interoperability. Add to end of second deliverable: regard to this framework "and interoperability." WG should consider interoperability from the start. Proposed addition to statement of second deliverable: This framework is to be used as a basis for future API design (descriptive vs. proscriptive). Should the documents be combined? Possibly. A working group or research group? A working group, with an associated timeline, for quick results. If take bottom up approach, may be of low value long term, but if take too long with architecture/framework then also may have low long term value. This is a mixed approach. A glossary should be included as one of the deliverables. Should the glossary be updated periodically? WGs have finite lifetimes, so periodic updates should not be part of the WG. If an update is needed, form a new WG to work on the update. Suggestion on charter: be more specific than "provide guidance" "Define a framework for grid developers..." This WG is currently not in conflict with other WGs but this could change. Proposed schedule: submit drafts to editor in June 2003 20+ for votes. No votes against. Volunteer authors found for the documents:
Proposed WG chairs: Markus Lorch and Andrew McNab Proposed Secretary: Jim Basney Minutes composed by Jim Basney and Jay Alameda. |
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